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clint "idk the archer or something" barton ([personal profile] brandingproblem) wrote in [community profile] toplvl 2022-09-21 09:18 pm (UTC)

I--okay. [He holds up his hands. Is there such a thing as a time out when it comes to emotionally fraught attempts to make up for mind control? Loki's not right in the head, yeah, but also, has he ever really been?] I think before we do anything else, maybe we just need to...figure out where we are. What our universes are like. Maybe we should define Avengers? [Because yeah, it's entirely possible that this Loki's universe/timeline of existence is vastly different. It's also entirely possible they are both working off of some unequal assumptions here.]

There are technically a bunch of people that can be called Avengers. Hell, everyone at the last battle against Thanos, far as I'm concerned, they're all Avengers. But the original group of us, there were six. Me, Thor, Black Widow, Captain America, Iron Man, and the Hulk. [Might as well use their codenames, the ones that have them. He doesn't know just how familiar Loki is with the others.] Depending on when along the timeline you wanna go, then you've got people like--Wanda, Vision, Falcon, War Machine or Iron Patriot or whatever name Rhodes is going by now, Black Panther, Barnes because I'm pretty sure he doesn't dig the Winter Soldier name, Ant-Man, Spider-man. Cast the net out wider more recently, then you start getting people from other already-named groups like uh, the Guardians, I think they're called? Bunch of mostly aliens who do their own thing. Nebula and Rocket, they helped out when we needed them. There's Doctor Strange who does freaky magic that's still not as freaky as Wanda's. There's freaking Captain Marvel I guess they call her who's a human but from space, I don't even know what her story is or if she even counts.

[He spreads his hands in a helpless little gesture.] In this moment, when I talk about the Avengers, I mean the original six of us. But there are technically more. And also technically not, because I don't think anyone's actually using the Avengers name right at this moment. As far as I know, right now, where and when I'm from, there are no Avengers for you to try and sidle up to. You'd have to pick another group or attach yourself to a particular person at this point. Maybe your brother.

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