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unpopular opinions

Do you think people are too sensitive? Or that Superman isn't so super? Think cats aren't cute? The Beatles are overrated? Love pineapple on pizza? Maybe you just don't like chips rly. Even the best of us have some controversial opinions. Let people know what a monster you are.

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with your characters’ unpopular and/or controversial opinion. Or share few of them at once. In person or via text. Prepare for disagreement.

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Monika || Doki Doki Literature Club || OTA

[peninhand]

You should be willing to do and sacrifice anything for love, even if it is unethical.

[ She's more trying to convince herself than others here. ]

[assseenontv]

I mean yeah obviously!

BUUUUT you gotta make sure it's one of them good healthy supportive loves! Not the self destructive kind that leaves you all burnt out on the inside. I speak from experience.

[peninhand]

Y-Yeah, I totally agree. Otherwise it just wouldn't be worth it.

[ Says the girl who "loved" a player she had known nothing about at all. When you're too desperate, you'll accept even the unhealthy loves. She knows it's bad, but... Unfortunately she has whatsoever no standards besides "do they exist?" ]

[assseenontv]

It sure felt like it.

But it's also hard to tell when you're in the thick of it. You could waste years of your life or worse on a bad relationship and not figure it out even when everyone else is tellin' ya otherwise.

Because it's true, like you said. You'd be willing to do everything and anything for love. It's that important and powerful and addictive.

[violetlies]

This is a difficult one.

I guess my rebuttal would be this: would that love do the same for you in return? Do you have any evidence? Can you believe in them to that extent?

If the answer to any of these is 'no', that's not even really 'love', as I'd put it. More like 'devotion'. And devotion gets people killed.

[He shrugs, an exaggerated shrug.]

Still, I don't know either of you, so...who can say, right? I'm just critiquing an honest opinion, that's what we're here for.

[peninhand]

Ahaha! I was in a debate club before, I'm used to it. Besides you're more polite than half the members were.

[ She was tempted to reply "I don't know him either" about her love, but she figured that'd be a bad idea. Or was it her? That's the problem with being in love with a completely unknown player who could literally be anyone. More so since she couldn't reply "yes" to any of those questions. ]

But... I guess I'm not thinking about it that logically. [She raised a finger.] Because love is not logic after all, right? So I feel trying to apply logic to it is kind of missing the point.

[violetlies]

Nee-hee-hee. Well, those must've been some pretty rude-ass debaters.

[He pauses, listening to it, then shakes his head.]

Love, as a word, can be interpreted in many ways. It's true. It's not logical - people with fame say 'I love my fans', singers have love songs, you can love your job, your house, your friends, your way of living...love is a broad concept. Maybe that's why I don't put too much stock into it. Making sacrifices for love is difficult, because love is everywhere...you can still gain things through your different loves, even if they're unrequited.

Sometimes a one-sided love can still teach you something new about yourself. 'I'm braver than I thought,' or 'I've got more skill in this than I imagined', and it's because you traded one love for another. I suppose it could also throw your ethics into question...that's where 'devotion' comes in. Unhealthy love. Love you'd kill or die for, that you put above all else.

So you may be right. Love isn't logical. Nor is it always healthy. That's why I don't really put too much stock in it. It's a fleeting concept of which you have to make your own meaning, even when there is none, and even then - if you admit to it being illogical, then you're just chasing a high that will probably wear off sooner or later. Best you don't do anything you regret chasing that high.

To me, trust is more valuable than love. That's something to sacrifice for.

[peninhand]

You do make a lot of good points.

[ None of which she could really refute because she knew most of his points were correct. She looked down for a moment. Trust, huh? Did trust even matter when the ones trusting you weren't even real, weren't even people? Just NPCs with a set number of reactions. Or was it just another lie she fed herself to make the guilt easier to bear? ]

I probably should clarify I was speaking about romantic love. Ultimately, all concepts are fleeting. Even trust may be put to the test when faced with conflicting loyalties or revelations significant enough to alter one's perceptions.

[ Like if you learn someone trusting you is actually a NPC with no free will. ]

And... Should someone give your life meaning and bring you happiness where none other can— Is it so unhealthy to forego logic and love them, to be devoted? [A weak smile.] I'll admit my perspective is biased. I come from a place where very little brings happiness and I have always been fond of books with happy endings. The ideal of love has always helped me keep on going, even in the darkest of times. I can't say the same of trust. This is where my "unpopular opinion" comes from, my own experience.

[potedeiabard]

[ Generally, Gabrielle wouldn't engage... but love and sacrifice are two topics too close to her heart. ]

Even if such unethical thing hurts your loved one?

[peninhand]

No, of course not. You're doing that for their sake, so anything you do should be with their happiness in mind.

[ She doesn't promise it won't hurt everyone else though. ]

[potedeiabard]

[ She presses her lips together and really thinks on how to put it. Her hands gesture around without aim. ]

But, if the unethical thing means sacrificing people or something of theirs for your beloved...

[ She can't even finish her question. ]

[peninhand]

I wouldn't sacrifice people.

[ Or at the very least, she would first convince herself they're not real people in the first place. Which leads to-- ]

But if that's "something," then I think it is justified long as you do it for the sake of your love.

[potedeiabard]

[ Oh, Gabrielle is kind of terrified at the prospect, but strangely amused, like morbid curiosity just can't stop tickling at her. She's none the wiser, as she would've done anything for her love as well. ]

I see, understandable. I suppose I just have a ... threshold as to what I would do.

[ Condeming forty thousand souls to eternal, unjust torment for instance. ]

Have you ever had to do that kind of thing?

[peninhand]

Yes...

[ She wasn't sure she wanted to say it though... It wasn't horrifying on a thousands-of-souls levels, but still. ]

But that's complicated. [A pause.] Imagine if Alexa from amazon was getting in the way of your love. Nobody would think about it twice and would remove it, right?

[ .... That metaphor may not work if the person doesn't know amazing, but everyone hates amazon, right? ]

[meandmyself]

Yeah, uh, some things people do in the name of quote love unquote are horriffic and very understandably illegal.

I only very narrowly don't speak from experience.

[peninhand]

I speak from experience. [A pause.] I'm not saying things may not be horrific... But when only love matters, is it truly that immoral?

[meandmyself]

Yes. Absolutely. Love is cool and all but if someone stabs me out of love then I still want them to go to prison.

[peninhand]

Well of course I'm not talking about like, killing someone or anything like that, ahaha!

[ The catch here is convincing yourself that the person you kill isn't a person to begin with. ]

[meandmyself]

If your stance is that it's good to do some things in the name of love, but not really bad stuff, then sure, we're on the same page.

[peninhand]

R-Right. I don't think I'd have it in me to kill... [Nervous laughter.] It's all a matter of perspective anyway.

[teekl]

Mmm... gross.

[peninhand]

What's gross about this opinion?

[teekl]

Um, all of it?

You shouldn't do that stuff for love. That's loser's talk.

You should just do it for fun.

"You should be willing to do and sacrifice anything for fun, even if it is unethical."

Doesn't that sound a lot less gross?

[peninhand]

... There is something beautiful in sacrificing anything for your love.

For "fun" is just selfish.

[teekl]

Yeah?

Well, love's just as selfish.